1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 on this edition of Sightings. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,000 30 years after the fact, 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,000 the Air Force tries to provide an explanation 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,000 for a landmark UFO encounter. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Now they're providing us with new explanations for old sightings. 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,000 I have no idea why they're doing it, 7 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,000 but I find it highly significant. 8 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,000 In New Mexico, sightings investigates a police officer's 9 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,000 controversial contact at Socorro. 10 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Then, in Ecuador, 11 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 the powers of nature are harnessed to perform miraculous healings. 12 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 There's no trick re-involved here. 13 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 There's no trick re-involved here. 14 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,000 It's a power, and people come out of healings feeling better. 15 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Psychic Diana Abbott wants people to know one thing about hauntings. 16 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Being afraid only makes it worse. 17 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 First thing I'll tell these people is no fear. 18 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,000 That's ridiculous. 19 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 I felt such an affection for the abductees 20 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 and their courage for having come forward. 21 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 And find out why a highly regarded journalist 22 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 has opened his mind and his heart to victims of alien abduction. 23 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,000 The first thing I'll tell these people is no fear. 24 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,000 It's ridiculous. 25 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000 I felt such an affection for the abductees 26 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,000 and their courage for having come forward. 27 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,000 I felt such an affection for the abductees 28 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 and their courage for having come forward. 29 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,000 I felt such an affection for the abductees 30 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,000 and their courage for having come forward. 31 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,000 I felt such an affection for the abductees 32 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,000 and their courage for having come forward. 33 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,000 I felt such an affection for the abductees 34 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,000 and their courage for having come forward. 35 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,000 I felt such an affection for the abductees 36 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,000 and their courage for having come forward. 37 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,000 I felt such an affection for the abductees 38 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000 and their courage for having come forward. 39 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,000 I felt such an affection for the abductees 40 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,000 and their courage for having come forward. 41 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Welcome to Sightings. I'm Tim White. 42 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 When it comes to the classic UFO cases 43 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 of the 1940s, 50s and 60s, 44 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,000 the U.S. government is running out of excuses. 45 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,000 As more and more documents become declassified, 46 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,000 officials can no longer blame every major UFO sighting 47 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 on comets, clouds and weather balloons. 48 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Does this mean the government will finally begin telling us 49 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 everything it knows about UFOs? 50 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,000 SACURO, NUMEXICO 51 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,000 SACURO, NUMEXICO 52 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 SACURO, NUMEXICO 53 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 is the kind of small town people are usually traveling through 54 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 on their way to someplace else. 55 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Visitors rarely slow down long enough 56 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,000 to learn that this place has a mysterious past. 57 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 And that one retired SACURO police officer 58 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 is still haunted by the unearthly encounter 59 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,000 that took place here 32 years ago. 60 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Lonnie Zamora remembers April 24, 1964. 61 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Lonnie Zamora remembers April 24, 1964. 62 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Lonnie Zamora remembers April 24, 1964. 63 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,000 He was a rookie on the force, 64 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 returning to the station after an uneventful day. 65 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Then a speeding vehicle passed Zamora's patrol car, 66 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 and he set off in pursuit. 67 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,000 When we got to this hill, 68 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,000 saw a lot of dust, 69 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,000 and I let the speeder go, 70 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 and I turned to investigate. 71 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,000 I could see a white object 72 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 sitting between those two bushes over there, 73 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 and I had to come real slow 74 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,000 because this was a messed up road, 75 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,000 had big rocks on it and everything. 76 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,000 I thought it was the kids from high school 77 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,000 that were racing up here, 78 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,000 and maybe one of the teenagers had turned over. 79 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 When the speeding object came to a stop, 80 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Zamora claims that he saw two figures in white coveralls 81 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,000 emerge from a strange white UFO. 82 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,000 He moved in slow. 83 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,000 I came up here on this road 84 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000 until I could find a flat spot 85 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 where I could park my car. 86 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,000 I got out the car and glanced down to the royal there, 87 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,000 and I saw this white-looking object. 88 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,000 It was sort of a big egg-chip, bigger in a car. 89 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Those are the bushes that were there, 90 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,000 and the craft was sitting right in between them, too. 91 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,000 So I started down to see what it was, 92 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,000 and then I heard this big boom in the bottom, 93 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,000 and the fire came out of the bottom, 94 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,000 so I started running behind my police car to take cover. 95 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,000 I could feel the heat off of it because it was windy like now, 96 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,000 and then it gradually pulled up, 97 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,000 up about 20, 30 feet, and stayed there for a while, 98 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,000 and it just took off. 99 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,000 His radio was dead. 100 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Zamora could only watch in awe 101 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 as the object disappeared over the horizon. 102 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,000 As soon as it was gone, 103 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 the police radio crackled to light, 104 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 and Zamora called for backup. 105 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 A New Mexico state police unit quickly arrived. 106 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 We came down here, 107 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,000 and we saw this big rock right down here, 108 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,000 and it was still on fire. 109 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,000 And then we saw the imprints of the legs, of the craft, 110 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,000 and there was four of them, 111 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,000 and then we saw these footprints around here. 112 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 By nightfall, the FBI had arrived on scene 113 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 and began gathering evidence. 114 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,000 They went down there and measured the footprints and everything, 115 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,000 and we stayed out here until about 7 or 8 o'clock at night, 116 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,000 still wondering what it was. 117 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,000 But they didn't say what it was or not. 118 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,000 But at 9 o'clock they said we went down to the courthouse, 119 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,000 and we talked about it until about midnight. 120 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Instantly, Sikoro was the center 121 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 of an unprecedented media frenzy. 122 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 This is one of the few sightings 123 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,000 that got national attention immediately. 124 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Lonnie Zamora's story is on the national news. 125 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 It's in all the newspapers. 126 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Everybody's talking about it. 127 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Kevin Randall is an internationally renowned UFO investigator. 128 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,000 He feels the Sikoro events stand alone 129 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,000 because of the amount of physical evidence collected at the scene. 130 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Landing gear marks were found. 131 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,000 The bush was burned by the UFO engine. 132 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,000 There were occupants, creatures from the craft 133 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 sighted by Lonnie Zamora. 134 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,000 And the event brought the greatest UFO researcher of the day to Sikoro. 135 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Jay Allen Hynek, the Air Force consultant, came to Sikoro. 136 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,000 He looked at it, talked to Zamora, talked to Zamora's superiors, 137 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,000 talked to people who saw the landing traces, took photographs. 138 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 So there's physical evidence remaining behind. 139 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,000 It's one of the few times they said there could be a flying saucer. 140 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,000 I had conversations with Dr. Hynek about the Sikoro case. 141 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 And his comments to me led me to believe 142 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 that he felt that this was one of those cases where the government 143 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:00,000 was unwilling to permit him to say what he would like to say about it. 144 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,000 And that this made him a great deal. 145 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,000 According to Timmerman, a longtime associate of the Sikoro case 146 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,000 and a longtime associate of Jay Allen Hynek, 147 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:15,000 the Sikoro event was one of the defining moments in Hynek's career. 148 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,000 He felt that this was one of the most important cases he'd come across. 149 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,000 And I think that maybe his attitude toward it was developed 150 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:29,000 as a result of his feel about the Lonnie Zamora, the primary witness. 151 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Lonnie Zamora is very credible. He's a police officer. 152 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,000 He has nothing to gain by telling this story. 153 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 He is stuck with this story from the very beginning. 154 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 This is what he saw. There's no question that Lonnie Zamora 155 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,000 saw something unusual on the ground. 156 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,000 According to the Air Force and government, they say they don't know what it was. 157 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:52,000 They never told me not to say or say about it, you know, talk about it. 158 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,000 But they say that they don't know what it was. 159 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:01,000 In fact, it took 21 years for the Air Force to finally offer an explanation 160 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000 for the Sikoro UFO landing. 161 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,000 They offered logs from the White Sands missile base, 162 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:11,000 charting government testing of the newly developed lunar landing module. 163 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:17,000 But the logs indicate the tests ended more than five hours before Zamora sighting. 164 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,000 The Air Force explanation simply doesn't work 165 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,000 because they have no documentation to place the lunar lander 166 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,000 in that portion of New Mexico at that time. 167 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 It does not match Zamora's description. 168 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,000 I think if Dr. Hynek were here today and saw this new documentation 169 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,000 available to report that the Air Force says it was a lunar lander, 170 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,000 if anything, that landed near Sikoro, 171 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 I think he'd say bush wall. 172 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:46,000 He'd say that this is the government trying to do its fancy little dance 173 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,000 and saying things that will satisfy the media, 174 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,000 that will satisfy the country and the world, 175 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,000 that there's no reality to the UFO phenomenon. 176 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Whereas there is. 177 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,000 And according to JPL, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, 178 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,000 the lunar lander alluded to in the government data did not fly. 179 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,000 It was dropped from a tower and had no system of independent propulsion 180 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 as reported by Zamora. 181 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Randall believes that this is proof the Sikoro UFO was not a lunar lander. 182 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,000 The Air Force completed their UFO investigation, 183 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 said they had nothing more to say on it, 184 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 and yet now they're coming out this year 185 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,000 providing us with new explanations for old sightings. 186 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,000 I have no idea why they're doing it, but I find it highly significant. 187 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Randall believes it is Sikoro's proximity to several highly sensitive military bases 188 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,000 that have prompted a continuing disinformation campaign. 189 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,000 It is between the Los Alamos National Laboratory, the White Sands Missile Range, 190 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,000 the very large array of radio telescope is 50 or 60 miles to the west. 191 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Sikoro's right in the middle of this. 192 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,000 If you've got a race of intelligent beings wanting to see what we're doing, 193 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,000 it makes a perfect place for them to come to observe our steps into space 194 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 and what our science is doing. 195 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,000 According to Timmerman, the Sikoro event convinced Dr. Heineck 196 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,000 that the truth about UFOs was being manipulated by the Air Force. 197 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 After Sikoro, Heineck left his post. 198 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,000 The government lost one of its most prestigious spokespersons 199 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 and gained its most ardent critic. 200 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Dr. Heineck saw this and it was very obvious to him 201 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:29,000 that what Lonnie Zamora was saying in the depths of his honesty 202 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:34,000 was not what the military was saying in their attempt to explain it. 203 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Disproving the lunar lander theory does not mean that the Sikoro craft came from another planet, 204 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,000 but it does raise serious questions about the true nature of the event. 205 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:51,000 What could have landed there more than 30 years ago that is still too sensitive to reveal? 206 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Recently, I accompanied a sightings investigative team to Ecuador. 207 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,000 We were hearing stories about miraculous healings being performed 208 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,000 by men who breathed fire and communicated with ancient spirits. 209 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:25,000 It was an incredible journey into a culture rarely seen by outsiders. 210 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,000 This is what a house call looks like in many parts of Ecuador. 211 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,000 At its center is the shaman, 212 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:45,000 a healer trained in ancient methods that appear bizarre to outsiders. 213 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,000 His pharmacy is the rainforest, the sea and the mountains of South America. 214 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,000 To appreciate the powers and magic that these individuals possess, 215 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,000 it's necessary to see the shaman's world from the inside. 216 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Between the lakes and volcanoes of the Ecuadorian Andes, 217 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,000 for centuries the shaman have been celebrated as mystical healers and teachers. 218 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Now the shaman have something to teach us. 219 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Sightings journey to central Ecuador, to the village of Caravella, 220 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:21,000 a fertile plain ringed by active volcanoes, an area known here as the Valley of the Dawn. 221 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Our guides were local expert Eduardo Quito and John Perkins, 222 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,000 a successful corporate executive turned environmentalist and an expert on shamanism. 223 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,000 John, what is the definition of a shaman? 224 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,000 The definition that I like best, the short definition, 225 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,000 is a shaman is a person who journeys into other worlds. 226 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,000 We may call that the subconscious or the collective unconscious. 227 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:50,000 And in these other worlds he finds power, energy and knowledge 228 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,000 that he can then use to effect change in this world. 229 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Shamanism is based on a belief in the power and value of mother nature 230 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,000 that earthly forces affect us in mysterious ways. 231 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:10,000 The most important thing that's going on is recognizing our oneness and our unity with nature. 232 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,000 The shaman will use his wakas, his sacred stones, 233 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,000 and he'll be using different herbs, 234 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:26,000 and he'll be using trago, this cane sugar alcohol, and fire, and water, air and earth. 235 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 All of the elements will be present. 236 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,000 Perkins worked with the World Bank until a trip to Brazil, 237 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 and a meeting with a shaman changed the focus of his life's work 238 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,000 and inspired him to write this book about his experience. 239 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Ipupiara, my blood brother, is a Ipupiara, 240 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,000 from the Brazilian Amazon, a very, very special person, a shaman 241 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,000 who has been a great influence in my life, 242 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 a very important man who's not only a shaman from the Amazon, 243 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:00,000 but also has a PhD in anthropology and is working as a consultant to the Smithsonian right now. 244 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Ipupiara is the indigenous name of anthropologist and shaman Bernardo Piocioto. 245 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 It means freshwater dolphin. 246 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:16,000 The first thing that I have to learn to be a shaman was to respect and love people. 247 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Then they started teaching me about the sacred religion that we have, 248 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:35,000 how to heal, how to take the vision quest, how to fast, how to purify myself, 249 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:45,000 and also to learn about the herbs and the roots and leaves that we have in the rainforest to heal people. 250 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,000 Healing is one of the most important duties of a shaman. 251 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Janice Meeder gained first-hand knowledge of shamanic power after a trip to Ecuador with John Perkins. 252 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:04,000 Prior to my departure, I had been diagnosed with an ovarian tumor. 253 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,000 And so as we went into the shaman's place and sat down, I said to the shaman, 254 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,000 this woman with me has a very specific illness. 255 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,000 She was diagnosed by a doctor in the United States and I'd like to tell you about it. 256 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,000 And he said, no, let me tell her. 257 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:28,000 He went right to it. It was surprising, if you want to call it that. 258 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,000 He was able to go over my entire body without me saying a word 259 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,000 and locating the exact location of where this tumor existed. 260 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,000 The results of her healing session with the shaman were even more surprising. 261 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:46,000 After the healing session, I returned home from the Amazon with John Perkins 262 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,000 and decided to check in with my doctor. 263 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,000 I just wanted to see peace of mind-wise how things were going. 264 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,000 And when I went back, it was diagnosed that the tumor had dissipated. 265 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Here at the top of the Andes, almost at the top of the world, in tiny Carabuella, 266 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:10,000 John Perkins wanted me to meet the legendary shaman and healer, Donny Stabon. 267 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:21,000 We were invited to attend a healing session. 268 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,000 That night, a local woman was being treated for migraine headaches that had plagued her for months. 269 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Donny Stabon purified the room by blowing fermented sugarcane over it. 270 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,000 He purified himself by disgorging bad spirits he felt were inside him 271 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,000 and then he blew fire as a final cleansing ritual. 272 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:46,000 There's no trickery involved here. It's a power and people come out of healings feeling better. 273 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,000 The patient is given an ancient Amazonian spear. 274 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Donny Stabon blows carnation petals on the woman. 275 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:58,000 To someone trained to respect the Western tradition of stethoscope and prescription pad, 276 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 the shaman's methods were bizarre. 277 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:05,000 A flocking with native plants, sacred stones rubbed on the chest and head. 278 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,000 And as the evening progressed, the shamanic rituals became more bizarre, 279 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,000 culminating in this dramatic moment. 280 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:19,000 He will use fire, using the alcohol, blowing it through a candle so that the patient is engulfed in a ball of fire, 281 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:26,000 which helps to smooth down this myeliety, this bad air, this bad energy, the bad vibrations. 282 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Finally, Donny Stabon uses crystal to draw the sickness out of the patient and into himself. 283 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:41,000 When I drink him bad spirits, I wake up the next day feeling weak, not feeling so good. 284 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,000 But it has helped heal people and the spirits protect me. 285 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:50,000 I honor them, I honor the earth and it gives me energy and strength. 286 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Shamans, like Donny Stabon, believe there is a balance in our lives, as there is in nature, 287 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,000 but now the scales are tipping, especially in the north. 288 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:05,000 It's important for all of us to recognize that we all come from shamanic cultures. 289 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:10,000 We can look at shamanism any way we want, but it's in our blood, it's in ourselves, it's in our DNA. 290 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Whether we're from Asia or Europe or Oceania or Africa or the Americas, 291 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,000 every one of us has shamans in our ancestry. 292 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,000 John Perkins isn't advocating that we turn our backs on the medical profession. 293 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:31,000 Rather Perkins and others are suggesting that we consider the power of all forms of traditional medicine, 294 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,000 even if the tradition is not our own. 295 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,000 Next, the government calls it a necessary part of our national defense. 296 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Its critics call it a doomsday machine. This just may be the most important story you've never heard. 297 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Here are some of the stories that sightings is following in the news, or not in the news, as the case may be. 298 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Project Censored is an annual effort by journalists and others to seek out and publicize news stories 299 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:03,000 which they feel have been ignored. One story that caught our attention concerned a government project called HARP. 300 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:12,000 In California, the government has called it a doomsday machine. 301 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:18,000 In California, Sonoma State University is the home of Project Censored, 302 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:24,000 an annual review of more than 700 stories that have been overlooked or under-reported by the mainstream media. 303 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:29,000 A panel of judges, including Mike Wallace, Bill Moyers and John McLaughlin, 304 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,000 select an annual top 10 list of the most significant news stories. 305 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:40,000 Last year, the number one most under-reported story was a mysterious U.S. government project called HARP. 306 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:45,000 HARP is an acronym for High Frequency Active Aurora Research Program. 307 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,000 It's based in Gakona, Alaska, and when the program is fully functioning, 308 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:54,000 it will blast up to a billion watts of radio energy into the sky. 309 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,000 HARP could be used to alter weather patterns, to jam electrical grids, 310 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:03,000 various serious things that the public, in fact, had every right and need to know about. 311 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,000 So on that basis alone, it qualifies. 312 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,000 It also qualifies because there's been virtually no mainstream press coverage. 313 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:16,000 We're talking about New York Times, L.A. Times, Washington Post, the network news shows. 314 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,000 The HARP story has been virtually completely absent from mainstream coverage. 315 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:25,000 The fact that the public does not know about it, and the fact that the press has not reported the story, 316 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,000 gives us some concern, and I think we give many, many Americans some concern. 317 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Some concerned people are calling these HARP antennae the doomsday machine. 318 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,000 They believe the program will have a number of questionable functions, 319 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,000 including X-raying the Earth, changing seasonal weather patterns, 320 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,000 destroying enemy missiles, even psychotronic warfare. 321 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,000 The debate over the global effects of HARP will be the subject of an extended investigation 322 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,000 on the next edition of Sightings. 323 00:19:53,000 --> 00:20:00,000 In Beijing, the Chinese government has now rejected a six-year-old boy 324 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:06,000 as the reincarnation of the Panchen Lama, Tibet's second holiest religious figure. 325 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:11,000 The boy had been chosen after a series of secret ceremonies in May of 1995 326 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:17,000 and was dubbed Panchen Lama by the Dalai Lama, the supreme leader of Tibet's Buddhists. 327 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,000 The Dalai Lama currently lives in exile, and for the first time, 328 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:28,000 has been the object of an ongoing war of conscience between the Tibetan Buddhists and the Chinese government. 329 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Tibet's election of the boy ended a six-year search for the successor to the 10th Panchen Lama, 330 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:39,000 who died in 1989. The rejection by Beijing is the most serious step 331 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:46,000 in the religious and political confrontation between the spiritual hierarchy of Tibet and Chinese officials. 332 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Many in Tibet now fear for the safety of the boy chosen by the Dalai Lama 333 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:56,000 because the Chinese government has now identified a different boy as the reincarnated soul. 334 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,000 In doing so, they are being accused of interfering with the religious freedom of Tibet, 335 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:07,000 and China now becomes the first communist government to officially express a belief in reincarnation. 336 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Scotland's first reported case of alien abduction took center stage 337 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,000 at the 8th annual UFO Congress held recently in Sheffield, England. 338 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Scottish UFO researcher Malcolm Robinson revealed details of his case history of a unique abduction experience. 339 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:33,000 It was a terrifying encounter that occurred in 1992, when Gary Wood and Colin Wright claimed that they were abducted together 340 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000 from a wooden area on the outskirts of Edinburgh. 341 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:41,000 They contacted numerous societies in England for someone to take them seriously, 342 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,000 and I can't believe that nobody got in touch with these gentlemen. 343 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:51,000 Robinson was the first researcher to suggest that Wood and Wright be interrogated separately 344 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:58,000 and that they undergo hypnosis to see if even their subconscious memories would match. They did. 345 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:08,000 It was just terror. Vivid memories seem to arise, beings being in some form of a room, 346 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:16,000 being on some form of a platform with these big creatures, small ones and big ones, 347 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:21,000 round me, doing things to me. 348 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:27,000 It is only now that their case is being revealed at conferences like this one in Sheffield 349 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:34,000 that Wood and Wright feel they can begin to recover from the unexplained events of August 17, 1992. 350 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:39,000 I feel more comfortable now, rather than being up all night terrified and scared. 351 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Uphologists from around the world are particularly intrigued by this Scottish case 352 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:50,000 because the two abductees are men who had not been exposed previously to the alien abduction phenomenon, 353 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,000 or the details revealed by other abductees under hypnosis. 354 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,000 I believe in the sincerity of these two gentlemen. This really did happen. 355 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:05,000 And it's the only case in Scotland to take me off the proverbial fence into believing that perhaps, 356 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:11,000 and it's about good perhaps, humankind is indeed interacting with some form of alien intelligence. 357 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:22,000 We'll have more stories from the news next time. Now, here's what's coming up on Citing's. 358 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:28,000 Diana Abbott believes when it comes to hauntings, the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. 359 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:33,000 This is a very practical science support line concern. There's no superstition involved. 360 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Later, close encounters of the fourth kind. 361 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,000 Ghosts are the most persistent of all paranormal phenomena. 362 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:53,000 For centuries, we've wondered why only some people see apparitions of the dead walking among us. 363 00:23:53,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Perhaps it's all a dream. Or maybe there are spirits who return because they have unfinished business here on Earth. 364 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Born during a lunar eclipse, psychic Diana Abbott believes she inherited her unique gift 365 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,000 from her grandmother, who accurately predicted the date and time of Diana's birth. 366 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:23,000 Recently, Diana contacted Citing's about haunting activity in her hometown of Omaha, Nebraska. 367 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,000 Her no-nonsense approach caught our immediate attention. 368 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,000 This is a very practical science support line concern. There's no superstition involved. 369 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Diana consults with local law enforcement agencies and also works with private clients 370 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,000 who are trying to cope with hauntings and other paranormal activity. 371 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Her philosophy is, get tough, get smart, and don't be a victim. 372 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:49,000 I really, really hate to see it when people buy into the fact that they've got a ghost in their house 373 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,000 or they have paranormal activity and they make a projection out of it 374 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,000 and you see people going through this, you know, oh poor me type thing. 375 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Well, that's ridiculous because all that's going to do is make it worse. 376 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,000 We wouldn't leave unless there was something very serious happening. 377 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,000 When Diana first met the frightened residents of this Nebraska farm, they were victims. 378 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:14,000 Allowing the threatening entities presence they felt here to drive them out. 379 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000 I could never sleep in my bedroom. I could never sleep at night. 380 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:24,000 I would wake up for no reason in the middle of the night and just have this incredible fear. 381 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,000 It was like the greatest noise you could possibly hear. 382 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000 It was almost like freight train going through your house. 383 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,000 It was almost like somebody just grabbing your house and squeezing it in and out. 384 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000 It was just like the most horrible thing. 385 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:45,000 And it just sort of shocks you. You just sort of sit there because you know it's not a house sound from an old house. 386 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,000 It's very pronounced and there's no explanation for it. 387 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:56,000 It's enough to scare you and make you think that there's something else in the house that wants you out 388 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,000 or at least wants you to be afraid of it. 389 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:06,000 The entities reportedly seen on this property have taken many shapes and forms. 390 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,000 One time when I drove in the driveway I thought I saw a dog about the same color as mine. 391 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:17,000 And I thought to myself, you know, my roommate, I said, darn it, you know, why did you let my dog out and leave? 392 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,000 I pulled the driveway, I get out and I call for her and she didn't come. 393 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,000 So I went inside and there she was running up to me inside the house. 394 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Among the first to be called into help was the family priest who offered to perform a house blessing. 395 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:42,000 There are times when powerful forces have overtaken places and people for which special treatment and special prayer was needed. 396 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:48,000 I have never been confronted in my 22 years as a priest with anything like this. 397 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:56,000 The blessing was no match for the forces here. The spirit attacks continued and then intensified. 398 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:03,000 When the situation is so bad that you have to run out of the house, we knew we needed help. 399 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000 They sought help from Diana Abbott as a last resort. 400 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:14,000 She instantly knew about the house, told me and described rooms in my house. 401 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,000 When I had never talked to her, she hadn't known me, had never been to our house. 402 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:24,000 I was actually shaking that she knew so much about our house and I had never talked to her before. 403 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:30,000 The very first time Diana walked through the property, she made contact with what she felt was a ghostly entity. 404 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:38,000 I felt some energy behind me that was building very rapidly and it was what I would perceive as being human energy but transitory. 405 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000 In other words, what we would call a ghost. 406 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:46,000 And I turned around to look and a female form through my vision started to form over here next to the barn. 407 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:52,000 It is somewhat unusual to see an apparition in daylight hours this tangibly. 408 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Just now, standing over this area where I saw the young woman, I very definitely was told that she drowned. 409 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,000 Our sightings researcher has since confirmed that a young woman did die on the property. 410 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,000 She drowned in a horse trough in 1934. 411 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,000 The barn itself has a lot of activity, even upstairs. 412 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:22,000 It feels almost juvenile in nature I'd have to say or just a very low spirit level which could potentially be poltergeist activity. 413 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:28,000 But I get a sensation of one or two horses here too that are still in their minds alive and still living in that barn. 414 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:35,000 It's almost like looking at dust. If you leave dust alone for a year, it has time to build and gain shape also. 415 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000 And it's the same thing with this type of energy. 416 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,000 It was undisturbed, had nothing to get in its way and subsequently started building back to the form that it started out in. 417 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000 And in this case, it was ghosts. 418 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,000 You're not going to destroy this energy, you're only going to transform it. 419 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:52,000 This is manageable, it can be handled, most ghost settings can be handled. 420 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Don't buy into the fear, don't buy into the anger. 421 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:01,000 With a mix of philosophy, psychology and practical tips, Diana counsels the roommates that they can take back their home. 422 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000 Everything in life is either wave or particle. 423 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:09,000 With that in mind, to break those energy fields apart, you introduce more wave and more particle. 424 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,000 And for us in the physical plane of existence, that means light and sound and smell. 425 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:20,000 So, the more sunlight in the rooms that you've got, the more sound through radio or stereo, TV, anything, and people too. 426 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:28,000 And also the use of incense or even perfumes, potpourri, anything to break up the energy field that's causing you problems. 427 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,000 That's how you start. 428 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:36,000 Diana also told the group that she felt that much of the destructive energy in the house was emanating from this room upstairs. 429 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:44,000 Before you enter in this room, I would visualize a shield of white light around yourself and then put blue around that for protection. 430 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:51,000 This is an energy vacuum. You may end up with headaches or some other physical anomaly, unless you do. 431 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,000 So, just visualize white light around yourself when you walk in here. 432 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,000 The strongest area of energy is straight behind the door. 433 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:08,000 That is an area that is literally the worst in the house. Very, very, very negative energy. 434 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:14,000 Diana believes it is possible to change this kind of negative energy by using an ancient ritual. 435 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,000 This is sea salt and also some herbs in it. 436 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:26,000 And what you need to do then is place it in the corners of the room as close to being true north, true south, true east, and true west as possible. 437 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000 It's time for you to move on. 438 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:34,000 In that house what they have upstairs is emotionally damaging because it restricts their use of their facility. 439 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000 And that's not right. 440 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000 So, people have to learn how to take back their environment. 441 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000 From my viewpoint, there's no victims here. 442 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000 First thing I'll tell these people is no fear. That's ridiculous. 443 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,000 It's terrible that people have to leave their homes because of hauntings. 444 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:54,000 And, you know, there are ways to deal with the ghosts and keep you sane and apparently that's what I'm doing. 445 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,000 These people will learn to deal with this energy. 446 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,000 I'm not the least bit concerned about that. They will learn. 447 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:06,000 But it's great to see people growing with the situation instead of backing away and being fearful and diminishing their lives. 448 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:11,000 In this case, these people's lives have opened up because of this experience, which is the way it should be. 449 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,000 They've made it positive and they've turned it for the good. 450 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000 It's like I said, the basic final statement is no fear. 451 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,000 Diana Abbott does not know if the ghosts will ever leave the farmhouse. 452 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:31,000 But she feels that it's up to the people who live there to decide whether they will be victims or victors in this haunting situation. 453 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,000 Next, a respected journalist investigates stories of alien abduction. 454 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,000 The phrase is, utterly credible people telling utterly incredible stories. 455 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Despite ridicule, censure and public scorn, people are continuing to insist that they have had close encounters of the fourth kind. 456 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,000 The abduction phenomenon is not going away. 457 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:05,000 Instead, as Carla Wall tells us in this report, it's getting some attention in the academic mainstream. 458 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:12,000 If alien abduction is here to stay, they concede, we'd better figure out what exactly is going on. 459 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,000 I was so terrified looking into these big black eyes. 460 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,000 I ended up on a craft laying down on a table. 461 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Rounded by these beings and one of them's putting a needle in my neck. 462 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,000 They're emerging from a personal nightmare, coming forward to tell their stories of alien abduction. 463 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:46,000 The sheer magnitude of the phenomenon is what inspired this author to write close encounters of the fourth kind, alien abduction, UFOs and the conference at MIT. 464 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:55,000 He is CDB Brian, a seasoned and respected journalist, contributor to New Yorker Magazine and the author of Friendly Fire. 465 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:02,000 I met with Brian at his home in Connecticut to find out what drew him to the academic conference on which his book is based. 466 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Why go to the MIT conference in the first place? 467 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,000 Because it was such a crazy idea. 468 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:17,000 And I thought that if MIT, that high church of technology, was holding a conference on this subject, 469 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:23,000 and I learned it was being chaired by Dave Pritchard, who is a Breuder Prize-winning physicist at MIT, 470 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:29,000 and John Mack, who had already won the Pulitzer, the Harvard Psychiatrist. 471 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:36,000 These two men were chairing a conference on this subject, which was the equivalent of little green men. 472 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:43,000 It was news. MIT was lending this phenomenon of credibility, which it had never had before. 473 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,000 The prestigious Massachusetts Institute of Technology, a bastion of critical thought, 474 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:55,000 was an unlikely setting for a conference on the alien abduction phenomenon, which took place in June of 1992. 475 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Physicist and MIT professor Dr. David Pritchard organized the conference. 476 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:09,000 The point is not that MIT endorses alien abduction as a scientific area of research, 477 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,000 but that they endorse the principle of academic freedom and freedom of inquiry. 478 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:18,000 Pritchard and his co-chair, Harvard Psychiatrist Dr. John Mack, 479 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:24,000 assembled the most respected names in abduction studies for five days of seminars and debate. 480 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Despite the scholarly focus of the conference, many attendees faced scorn from their colleagues, 481 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,000 including historian Dr. David Jacobs. 482 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,000 This is a phenomenon that is steeped in ridicule. There is a price to pay. 483 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:46,000 It's a price that I have paid willingly. It's a price that I think all academics have to pay ultimately if you're very outspoken about the subject. 484 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:52,000 You have to be doubly, triply careful about what you say. It's certainly going to be misinterpreted. 485 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,000 In fact, you don't have to say anything and people will say, well, Dave Pritchard thinks it's real, 486 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,000 even though I never said that and I don't and I don't have any evidence. 487 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:06,000 That doesn't matter. The fact that you're doing it, you're going to get branded in this fashion. 488 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,000 What did you go up there thinking? 489 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:14,000 Well, I went up determined to have an open mind, which says I was skeptical and I still am. 490 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:21,000 But in the meantime, I had such admiration for Pritchard and Mack for the risks they were taking. 491 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:29,000 And ultimately, I felt such affection for the abductees and their courage for having come forward. 492 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,000 For the skeptical Brian, it was not the presence of so many respected academics, 493 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:41,000 but the sincerity of the 20 abductees at the conference that ultimately convinced him to take the phenomenon seriously. 494 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,000 I woke up terrified. Light comes in the window. Bed starts shaking. 495 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,000 I was screaming because I had alien eyes right in front of my face and I couldn't get away from them. 496 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:57,000 They were so vulnerable. They were frightened. They were smart. They were attractive. 497 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:04,000 They were everything that you would want in a human being and yet, God, these terrifying things were going on. 498 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,000 And I wasn't going to be the one who laughed at them and made fun of it. 499 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,000 I just wanted to try to get them to tell the story and understand it. 500 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:20,000 Here's someone who came into this with open eyes and basically he says that these abductees are sincere. 501 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,000 They're telling similar stories and we just don't know why. 502 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:30,000 The fact that he sat down and wrote this book and went through the process of his own changing attitudes towards the subject matter, 503 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:36,000 I think it's extraordinarily important. It's kind of a model for the way I think an intellectual, 504 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:43,000 if he does get daring enough to look into the matter, would tend to find himself moving. 505 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:48,000 Despite his attempt to leave no academic stone unturned, 506 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Brian was unable to find the kind of physical proof that would finally end the debate over the abductee's extraordinary claims. 507 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:05,000 One of the astronomers at the Harvard complained that he wouldn't believe in the UFO phenomena until a tailpipe or a cigarette lighter dropped from one. 508 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:12,000 But people neglect the fact that these abductees are hard evidence. 509 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,000 So you think something's going on. Do you think abductions are going on? 510 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,000 I'm going to have to be a journalist. I haven't been abducted. I've never seen anyone abducted. 511 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,000 But boy, the people I've interviewed are utterly convincing. 512 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:31,000 And the phrase is, utterly credible people telling utterly incredible stories. 513 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,000 They believe they've been abducted. There's no question in their minds. 514 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,000 Very short and you can't really explain what it's like unless it's actually happening to you. 515 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,000 This is something that affects you all your life. 516 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,000 There's a part of me that would love to find the answer that it was something else. 517 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:56,000 CDB Brian knows that far more researchers needed before anyone will get to the truth of the abduction experience. 518 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:05,000 But Brian says he won't be the one to do it. One paranormal book is okay, he feels, but two will compromise his standing as a serious journalist. 519 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,000 Next. 520 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:12,000 We today are in the process of destroying our civilization, just as Easter Island did destroy its own civilization. 521 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,000 Can the lessons of Easter Island save planet Earth? 522 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,000 The monolithic statues on Easter Island have always been shrouded in mystery. 523 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,000 But the truth is that scientists know who built them and how they were created. 524 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:38,000 The real mystery on Easter Island is not in the statues, but in a macabre trail of death that almost wiped out an entire civilization. 525 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,000 Dr. Jared Diamond believes that the planet Earth is in trouble. 526 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,000 And to understand why, we need to look no further than this tiny island in the middle of the Pacific. 527 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:59,000 Easter Island is roughly eight miles across. Its area is 64 square miles. 528 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,000 And it's the most isolated, habitable piece of land on Earth. 529 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000 2,000 miles off the coast of Chile. 530 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,000 1,400 miles even from the nearest Polynesian island. 531 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,000 Today, Easter Island is remote, barren, and largely uninhabited. 532 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,000 But this is not nature's doing. The island used to be covered with tropical plants. 533 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:26,000 It was home to exotic animals and large human population, a population much like our own. 534 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,000 Dr. Diamond suggests that ignore the balance of nature. 535 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:36,000 I think the real appeal of Easter Island is that it is a microcosm for the world and what's happening to us. 536 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:43,000 The biggest threat to human civilization in the next century is an environmental holocaust. 537 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000 We can see the signs all around us. 538 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:50,000 Population biologist Dr. Paul Ehrlich also sees a cautionary tale in Easter Island. 539 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:55,000 The parallels so far between Easter Island and the global population are very clear. 540 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,000 That is, Easter Island had a population explosion. We've had a population explosion. 541 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Easter Island then had a population collapse. 542 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,000 The issue is, are we going to have a population collapse, or are we going to sensibly limit our reproduction 543 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,000 so that we can begin a gradual return to a sustainable population size? 544 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:18,000 Because right now, the population of the planet is far above the present carrying capacity. 545 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,000 And when the population of Easter Island exceeded its carrying capacity, 546 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,000 not only was the Pacific paradise destroyed, so were the people. 547 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:32,000 Mistake number one, too many people. Mistake number two, they destroyed their biological environment. 548 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:39,000 They chopped down the forest. With a loss of forest, there was soil erosion, so their agricultural productivity decreased. 549 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:47,000 You can see the same thing happening to the entire planet. Land degradation has affected a very large proportion of the world. 550 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,000 Desertification has ruined a lot of the western United States. 551 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,000 When the last tree was gone, the islanders had seen their fate. 552 00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:03,000 They did not have the raw materials needed to build canoes with which they could then go to sea and feed themselves. 553 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,000 So they exterminated some of the wild species on which they depended for food. 554 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:14,000 The result was that when they had eliminated the main sources of wild protein, 555 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:20,000 they then turned to the only source of large protein remaining on the islands, namely humans. 556 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000 They turned to cannibals. 557 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000 Things got so tough that they began eating each other. 558 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,000 I mean, one of the classic curses on Easter Island was, 559 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,000 your mother is stuck between my teeth. 560 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,000 That's not the situation we want to get into here on the planet as a whole. 561 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,000 But could the island's history repeat itself on a global scale? 562 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:43,000 Our population and the scale of the human enterprise is growing essentially exponentially. 563 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:49,000 And we could very easily face a demise such as that that took over Easter Island. 564 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:56,000 Essentially all the tropical rainforests outside of parts of Amazonia and Zaire will be destroyed by the year 2030. 565 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,000 The world population is doubling about every 42 years. 566 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,000 So in about 60 or 70 years, we'll be using all the energy from sunlight 567 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:09,000 that then is an absolute limit on human population and there won't be anything left in the world 568 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,000 except humans, cows, rats and the other animals dependent upon us. 569 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:18,000 What we need to do immediately is to raise to the top of the human agenda 570 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,000 the whole issue of how we reduce the scale of the human enterprise 571 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,000 to the point where the planet can sustain us essentially permanently. 572 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,000 If we don't start doing that immediately, I fear for the future of our civilization. 573 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,000 The planet Earth is an island in the middle of space 574 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,000 and we today are in the process of destroying our civilization 575 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,000 just as Easter Island did destroy its own civilization. 576 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,000 Paul Ehrlich offers his dire predictions not because he's a fatalist 577 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,000 but because he believes there is still time to turn things around. 578 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,000 If you've had a paranormal experience, please write to us at Sightings. 579 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,000 Sightings can also be contacted at America Online at keyword Sightings. 580 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:10,000 At the Sightings forum, download images, sounds and quick time clips. 581 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,000 Also, join us daily in our chat room live on AOL. 582 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,000 Until next time, remember, no mystery is closed to an open mind. 583 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000 For Sightings, I'm Tim White. 584 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000 Sightings is open to all. 585 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,000 Next on Sci-Fi Dark Shadows 586 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,000 Ten years ago, some kids disappeared from this very place. 587 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,000 It's free! 588 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,000 What was that? 589 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,000 The creature just came out of the shadows. 590 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,000 As it gets closer and closer and closer...